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Posted 8 Months, 1 Week ago
jt_5353
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SyVyN11 challenged me to 'Tell me where it says all the stuff you terrorist loving asshole say that it supports.'

He has so far refused to tell me specifically what he wants me to prove. I have no idea what terrorist lovers believe it says, and I doubt they would have a consensus.

So I will pick something at random that I have asserted, namely that the Patriot Act permits wiretaps without warrant.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

SEC. 225. IMMUNITY FOR COMPLIANCE WITH FISA WIRETAP.

Section 105 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1805) is amended by inserting after subsection (g) the following:

'(h) No cause of action shall lie in any court against any provider of a wire or electronic communication service, landlord, custodian, or other person (including any officer, employee, agent, or other specified person thereof) that furnishes any information, facilities, or technical assistance in accordance with a court order or request for emergency assistance under this Act.'.

What this says is there is no penalty for aiding in wiretapping without a warrant under the provisions of the Patriot Act.

This is written in legal jargon, possibly over my challenger's head, but he asked me to show WHERE in the act it says this, which I have done. If he wants to claim it means something else, let him provide a citation to a legal opinion.

Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon. Complicit Bush-friendly media keeps mum.
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Posted 8 Months, 1 Week ago
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You and others of your ilk say that american citizens are FLASELY being convicted by the act. That they cannot get lawyers, or trials. I'm just asking you to back up what you say. PROVE IT! Show me where in the patriot act does it say this. It's not that hard.
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Posted 8 Months, 1 Week ago
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Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon. Complicit Bush-friendly media keeps mum.
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Posted 8 Months, 1 Week ago
GlobalGurus
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6. Americans are being illegally investigated using the Patriot Act. In 2003 and 2004, there were 34 documented (by the Justice Dept.) cases of Patriot Act abuses.
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Posted 8 Months ago
quaternion
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I recommend the book:

Terrorism and Tyranny by James Bovard Excellant explanation of the ABUSIVE Patriot Act!
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Posted 8 Months ago
duck
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there are more then that!
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Posted 8 Months ago
Rogue_7
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That's why I specified 'documented'.

There's no telling how many undocumented cases there are.
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Posted 8 Months ago
Roger Steer
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Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon. Complicit Bush-friendly media keeps mum.
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